Cleaver and Ruby MacLean T2 [Tape Two]

Interview

Thompson, Reg "Dutch"

MacLean, Cleaveland "Cleaver" M. and Ruby (Sherren)

2007-01-12, 2007-01-16

01:36:07

This is an interview with Cleaveland "Cleaver" M. and Ruby (nee Sherren) MacLean of Charlottetown, PEI. In this interview they talk about family, school, snow, rivalries in Charlottetown, the waterfront, ferries, driving, hockey, Wellington MacNeill, the railway and Cleaver's 41 year career, taxis, dance halls, their friendship with Don Messer, their first apartment, and various other topics.

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Held by Reg "Dutch" Thompson

SIDE A 00:00:00 -- 00:01:53 Discussion about dating and Ruby's wedding dress; dating, wedding dresses. | SIDE A 00:01:53 -- 00:06:45 Discussion about his birth and his family, with mention of his brother's death in WWII; 1922, Dr. Dewar, Jack MacLean, 1944, WWII, doctors. | SIDE A 00:06:45 -- 00:07:47 Discussion about school; school, model school, West Kent School. | SIDE A 00:07:47 -- 00:09:11 Discussion about deep snow and a story about Don Messer being stuck; Don Messer, deep snow, snowplows. | SIDE A 00:09:11 -- 00:13:34 Discussion about rivalries in Charlottetown; Charlottetown, rivalries, East End, West End, North End, North End Rowers, East End Hawks, hockey, Hell Street, Dorchester Street, Queen's Square, Father Pat. | SIDE A 00:13:34 -- 00:25:09 Discussion about the waterfront, shipping, and ferries; Charlottetown, waterfront, shipping, ferries, swimming, schooners, Hogan's Wharf, Harland, SS Harland, Wellington MacNeill, chewing tobacco, ferries, Rocky Point, Rocky Point Ferry, boats, Hillsborough River, Bruce Stewart, coal, Newfoundland boats, picnics, Brandt. | SIDE A 00:25:09 -- 00:25:37 Discussion about liquor; liquor, liquor scripts. | SIDE A 00:25:37 -- 00:27:31 Discussion about driving; driving, Churchill. | SIDE A 00:27:31 -- 00:31:46 Discussion about playing hockey on the pond; pond, hockey, pond hockey, rinks, skating, Jean MacLean. | SIDE A 00:31:46 -- 00:33:07 Discussion about the East End of Charlottetown; East End, Charlottetown, ice, fights, Ma Poulton, marbles. | SIDE A 00:33:07 -- 00:33:39 Discussion about train conductors; conductors. | SIDE A 00:33:39 -- 00:34:40 Discussion about Wellington MacNeill and chewing tobacco; taxis, Wellington MacNeill, chewing tobacco. | SIDE A 00:34:40 -- 00:35:47 Discussion about taxi drivers; taxis, Jimmy Power, Joe Shelfoon, taxi drivers. | SIDE A 00:35:47 -- 00;37:35 Discussion about a fire at the Victoria Hotel and discussion about other hotels in town; fires, Victoria Hotel, hotels, Charlottetown, Peardon House Hotel. | SIDE A 00:37:35 -- 00:40:24 Discussion about horses and coal yards; horses, coal yards, water fountains, coal. | SIDE A 00:40:24 -- 00:42:12 Discussion about the ice man and the milkman; ice, ice man, Drake, ice box, milkman, Garden City. | SIDE A 00:42:12 -- 00:43:47 Discussion about livery stables; livery stables, Revere Hotel, Walker's Livery, Garden City, Charlottetown, horses. | SIDE A 00:43:47 -- 00:46:42 Discussion about his father's cars and Sunday drives; cars, driving, Falconwood, Model-A Ford, crank engine. | SIDE A 00:46:42 -- 00:47:59 Discussion about the exhibition; exhibition. | SIDE A ends at 00:47:59. SIDE B 00:48:08 -- 00:48:51 Discussion about fires in Charlottetown; Prince of Wales College, fires, Victoria Hotel, Charlottetown. | SIDE B 00:48:51 -- 00:50:36 Discussion about Queen Elizabeth's visit; Queen Elizabeth, 1930s, royalty. | SIDE B 00:50:36 -- 00:53:23 Discussion about blacksmiths, coal, and diesel engines on the railway; Harold Gaudet, blacksmiths, railway men, railway, coal, diesel engines. | SIDE B 00:53:23 -- 00:57:14 Discussion about jobs he had with the railway; railway men, railway, jiggers, freight shed, railway cars, railroad, 1980. | SIDE B 00:57:14 -- 01:01:03 Discussion about railway crews and men he worked with; railway men, railway, Jim Leitizer, Cy Partidge, Bill Partidge, Rabbit Partridge, nicknames. | SIDE B 01:01:03 -- 01:02:34 Discussion about Maggie Lappin's and railway men; Maggie Lappin, boarding houses, railway men, railway, Rosy Morgan. | SIDE B 01:04:22 -- 01:07:16 Discussion about excursion trains, hockey players, and picnics; excursion trains, hockey, hockey trains, Gordie Drillon, Charlie Deighan, Hickey Nicholson, hockey players, picnics. | SIDE B 01:07:16 -- 01:10:20 Discussion about his work on the railway continues; wages, Clark Fruit, railway. | SIDE B 01:10:20 -- 01:11:43 Discussion about the end of the railway; railway, trains, narrow gauge. | SIDE B 01:11:43 -- 01:13:10 Discussion about railway cars going to Canada Packers and a story about a bull on the loose; Canada Packers, trains, bulls, Walter O'Brien. | SIDE B 01:13:10 -- 01:14:21 Discussion about Red Joe Gallant; characters, Red Joe Gallant. | SIDE B 01:14:21 -- 01:15:05 Discussion about dance halls; Dixon's Dance Hall, dance halls. | SIDE B 01:15:05 -- 01:16:39 Discussion about bootleggers and liquor scripts; bootleggers, Charlottetown, liquor scripts, Dr. Yeo, prohibition, WWII. | SIDE B 01:16:39 -- 01:17:27 Discussion about boxing and race relations; boxing, racism. | SIDE B 01:17:27 -- 01:30:59 Discussion about Don Messer; Don Messer, CFCY, fiddlers, musicians, Naomi Messer, Charlie Chamberlain, dances, kindness, Marg Osbourne, dancing, Duke Neilsen. | SIDE B 01:30:59 -- 01:33:24 Discussion about their first apartment, with mention of Joe Ghiz; McKarras, rent, Joe Ghiz, Robert Ghiz. | SIDE B 01:33:24 -- 01:34:02 Discussion about corned beef; corned beef, Ghiz. | SIDE B 01:34:02 -- 01:35:01 Discussion about fish and Market Square; smelts, fish, Market Square. | SIDE B 01:35:01 -- 01:36:07 Discussion about bowling; bowling, Tweel, bowling alleys. | Tape ends at 01:36:07.